September 30, 2004
The White Elephant



The building that I work at in East Williamsburg is being repaired and painted right now. They have already filled cracks with cement and now primed the exterior with a blinding white coat of paint. I wish the landlords would allow graffiti artists to come in and fill the canvas with some great pieces. It would be pretty cool to work in the building if that happened. Somehow, I don't think that will happen.
Last night, I went to the New York Photobloggers 2 at the Apple Store. Just like the first photoblogger event, there was an impressive roster of people (all of which people should check out). Unfortunately, unlike the last post-event gathering, there was no grinding, make out action at MercBar.
The most interesting thing to me was Keith's presentation. Coming into the photoblogger event, the thing that I wanted to see the most was shots of how photos looked before and after the Photoshop process. Now, everybody says they just use curves, but if you've used Photoshop, you know that curves can really do a lot. (Not that you care, but for the record, I just use curves and unsharp mask.) In his presentation, he showed everyone the before and after of his photos, which was very eye-opening. Keith flat out stated that his photos at Overshadowed do undergo manipulation, sometimes through a lot of editing, but he's not necessarily looking for a realistic representation of what he took, but more of a "movie" view. With the work that he does, he wants to recreate the New York that he sees in movies.
To be fair, just because someone does post-photo work, it doesn't detract from the talent of the photographer. I'm just curious as to how the photos we see compare to what actually came out of the camera.
Update:
- Rion has all the information on who was there and links to photos from the night in her entry on pastries. (I say she's evil).
- Keith's presentation from last night, including his "post process" stuff.
Posted by tien mao in Blog-ing, Photos at 7:48 AM
No PDA at Mercbar? Now I feel better about missing it.
I use curves, sharpening tools, and fiddle with levels from time to time, but mostly to correct my mofo camera, which has limited manual capabilities. Curves can do an awful lot...I've wondered about manipulation a lot, myself. Photoshop is a powerful tool-- but one could achieve, prior to digital photo, a lot of what it does manually in a darkroom. I think it comes down to personal taste and moderation. Keith's photos are dramatic and sometimes even surreal-- I like that-- I think he has a talent for bringing those features out. After all, you can do a lot in Photoshop, but it still takes talent to do it well.
Posted by: corie at October 1, 2004 8:57 AM
that's what i'm saying corie. oh, and i just "color correct" in photoshop. making the whites white, blacks black, etc. only sometimes do i do more than that. i like to think it looks more "natural" - that and i'm just too lazy to do more with it.
Posted by: tien
at October 1, 2004 10:10 AM
Thanks Tien. Glad you found my presentation helpful, I had fun "outing" my bad photos last night:)
Thanks Corie.
Posted by: Keith at October 1, 2004 11:14 AM
pastries. muuwahahahaha!
Posted by: rion at October 1, 2004 2:14 PM
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