January 9, 2004

Final 2003 tienmao.com Top 10

POST #    689

Now that the college football season (sadly!) is over, it's time for the final rankings:

1. USC - after seeing them in person - great team - watch out in 2004!
2. LSU - dominating defense, just enough offense
(note: big drop-off after top 2!)
3. Oklahoma - Jason White is either badly injured or a fraud - possibly both!
4. Miami - not a vintage Miami team, but ranked here by default
5. Michigan - are they as bad as they looked, or is USC just that good? Most years would drop lower, but not many worthy teams below them this year. Overall, a good season but could and should have been better.
6. Ohio St. - not pretty, but generally got the job done - favorable schedule though
7. Georgia - probably wish they didn't have to play LSU twice!
8. Iowa - very well coached - Ferentz is a rising star
9. Florida St. - rebounded nicely from 2002 - just can't beat Miami!
10. Washington St. - good, not great team, but parity gets them into top 10

Obviously the BCS failed this year (again), but that is a topic for another day. USC and LSU each deserve a share of the title, and it's a shame they can't decide it on the field. Since I had to pick someone as #1, I went with USC because I think they'd beat LSU on a neutral field. But since we'll never know, it's only fair that we have a split national championship.

(Posted by Justin, even though it says posted by Tien below!)

Posted by Justin in Sports at 11:32 AM



White's very injured, though they still won't say what. He didn't even look like he'd been working out.

You don't get accuracy like that over a whole season if you're a fraud.

Posted by: Adam at January 9, 2004 12:57 PM

the jason white thing just shows how silly the heisman is. There were at least 25 players better than him on that field alone, and he is supposedly the most outstanding player in the country?

Posted by: dan at January 9, 2004 1:37 PM

Maybe fraud is too strong a word. White did put up great numbers this year. However, I'm beginning to think that he produced those numbers while Oklahoma ran up the score against a lot of bad teams. Or at least overmatched teams. OK's special teams and defense were so dominant, the offense often was set up with great field position. Plus I think a lot of teams got behind early and then gave up.

I agree with Dan - White is good but not Heisman worthy. My vote is Eli Manning - he carried Ole Miss without a lot of help. Put him on Oklahoma and that would be scary. But this is nothing new for the Heisman trophy - remember Toretta, Weinke, Crouch, etc. If you put up good numbers at QB for a top 3 team, you're probably going to win, even if there are better players out there.

Posted by: Justin at January 9, 2004 2:16 PM

What no Miami of Ohio? Rothenberg (sp) is a stud. Thank goodness he went pro so Michigan doesn't have to face him next year. I will put them at 11a.

Fitzgerald or Manning should have beaten White for Heisman.

Posted by: John T. at January 9, 2004 4:40 PM

Oh yah, go Rams.

Justin should post more stories on Tien's blog. It is much better than reading about Tien's adventures on the toilet.

I got a fever and the only cure is more Justin.

Posted by: John T at January 9, 2004 4:43 PM

John, LOL! We both know what Tien is like, so we shouldn't be surprised by his "toilet" posts!

Anyway, I like Ben Roethlesberger and Miami OH. He will be a great NFL QB. But they were dominated by Iowa early in the year, and I just don't think they'd beat any of the teams ahead of them if they played on a neutral field. Maybe Washington St. Miami OH had a great record, and their QB is a stud, but they don't have enough around him to be a legit top 10 team in my mind. Certainly makes for a good debate though - too bad they couldn't play a decent team in a bowl game.

Posted by: Justin at January 9, 2004 4:53 PM

I'm fine with a split national championship, but what I don't understand is how so many people began to think that USC would beat LSU on a neutral field or how they became the media darling that they are. LSU had a better winning percentage, they play in a better conference, they won their bowl game over a much better team than USC did (Tien, what the hell happened to Big Blue?!?), and LSU's only loss came against a much better team than Cal, the only team to beat USC. LSU's strength of schedule was stronger, and they lead USC in six of the seven computer polls that comprise the BCS standings. The only poll to not have LSU #1 had Maryland #3(NY Times poll) so along with Jayson Blair, it would seem that the Multicolored Lady has made more than one mistake recently. I would love to see USC-LSU play. While USC is a great offensive team, I think its pretty clear that LSU is the better team if you look hard enough.

Posted by: Michael at January 10, 2004 1:26 PM

I think LSU is a great team. It's impossible to say who would win if they played USC, but it's fun to speculate. When comparing them, I don't really look at winning percentage, computer polls, etc. If you really want to get picky, you can say USC lost on the road in 3 OT while LSU lost at home. Cal finished 8-6 and Florida 8-5, so while I do think Florida is better, I don't think they are dramatically so.

Anyway, I've seen them both many times, including USC in person. We all know about USC's offense and LSU's defense, but I think USC's defense is better than LSU's offense. I would strongly disagree that it is "pretty clear that LSU is the better team if you look hard enough." I would disagree with anyone making such a statement about USC as well. I just think USC would win if I HAD to pick one of the two. Just my opinion though. Too bad they can't settle it on the field.

Posted by: Justin at January 10, 2004 4:05 PM

yeah, michael, i'm not sure what happened to michigan. better team, better coaches. both of those things prevailed. not that we're a lousy team or anything, but damn, USC was good. and we couldn't stop their D-line at all.

i'm sure justin, can give you much more of a detailed breakdown of the game if you want.

Posted by: tien at January 10, 2004 8:59 PM

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