December 23, 2003

NJ Should Keep the Nets

POST #    664

Yesterday, I was having a conversation with a friend of mine about the New Jersey Nets and their possible move to Brooklyn. Without concerning ourselves with the economics of the move, which is a catalyst for many moves and almost impossible to ignore, we debated the merits of the Nets moving to Brooklyn. Now, I have a fair amount of city-pride and have done my fair share of New Jersey bashing, but I think the Nets should remain in The Garden State.

My friend's reasons that she is pro-move: the Knicks stink, there would be a natural rivalry between the Knicks and Nets, the Nets would provide an alternative choice, and plenty of cities have multiple baseball teams.

While it's true that the Knicks stink, that's no reason to move another team into the city. My Mets suck, but I'm not asking for the Expos (a team with monetary woes as well) to move to New York. Knick fans should not abandon their team just because it sucks, they should expect changes to improve their team. On that note, the Knicks fired much maligned Scott Layden and replaced him with Isiah Thomas, the man who drove the CBA into the ground. Smooth hiring decision.

While my friend makes a good point on a rivalry being formed, the Knicks and Nets should have a rivalry right now too, since they are so close geographically. One could argue that the Knicks have bigger rivalries with the Bulls, Pacers, or Heat. I would be remiss if I didn't point out that those old rivalries are mostly over for various reasons. The most important thing in a rivalry is competition, which has not existed in recent years between the two teams. When the Knicks were good in the 90's, the Nets were bad. The Nets are now good and the Knicks are bad.

The Nets as an alternative choice to the Knicks? Alternative choice?!? You shouldn't need an alternative choice! I'm not a Knick fan, but if I were, I wouldn't want you as a Knick fan (see rant here). Please refer to Sports Guy's Rules for being a true fan, rule 18, paragraph 2. You can't switch teams right now! Now, if the Knicks moved to a different city, then I would be in favor of the Nets moving. I know, nonsensical, but must I make sense all the time?

As far as the multiple baseball teams, it's true; there are some cities that support more than one baseball team. Technically, that only happens in two cities, New York and Chicago. In football, it technically doesn't happen at all. The Cubs and the White Sox are both teams with rich histories of their own, which is the case with the Yankees as well. The Mets, however, are a replacement team compensating for the loss of the Giants and Dodgers. The Knicks and Nets also have rich histories...but in their respective locations, not as New York teams.

I say, keep the Nets in New Jersey, New York doesn't really need them and what happens when the Nets start sucking and the Knicks start sucking? Maybe we can lure the Lakers to New York. They moved once, letís see if they'll move again.

Posted by tien mao in Sports at 7:20 AM



teams aside, i think building a stadium in prospect heights is an awful idea. absolutely awful. the city should build something that the neighbor actually needs instead of a stadium that will create more traffic and congestion in the area.

Posted by: corie at December 23, 2003 10:19 AM

I'm opposed to the craziness that the construction will bring to the neighborhood, but I can understand the allure the deal has for the Nets, aside from the cash - it's a way to give a good team a more supportive fan base. Even the Devils, winning so many championships, have a rough time bringing in attendees.

Similarly, I like the idea of the Jets in NY, but the congestion and other issues make me crazy.

Posted by: Jen at December 23, 2003 11:02 AM

i think the knicks have a "supportive" fan base too, but that doesn't do jack when the team sucks. same with the rangers. granted, the nets and devils have good teams now, but no fans. if i were a knick fan, i wouldn't change allegiances just for a team that moved to my area.

obviously, people will turn out for the new team. local residents, corporate people, attendance is bound to rise. but if the team starts to stink, will people still go? if they become like the knicks, would there still be interest? what if they become like the portland trailblazers?

i'm just not sure it's worth it, or will definitely be a success story. maybe move them to a city without a franchise. the new arena would be cool though.

Posted by: tien at December 23, 2003 12:19 PM

good god. there's a reason why i don't live next to madison square garden. it would really suck to have a stadium way too close to my backyard.

Posted by: corie at December 23, 2003 1:28 PM

One bad thing about not living in New York anymore is that I don't know any Knick fans. Therefore, when they hired Isaiah Thomas, I didn't have anyone I could point at and giggle. I tell you the following as a Pacer fan:

Isaiah Thomas can dribble the ball. He can make a clutch jumpshot. He can make a nifty pass. However, without a basketball, the man is of no use.

And if he decides to coach... if he... I'll put it this way - Say your team has more talent on their bench than most teams in history. Say your team is coming off a championship run. Then your team hires a new coach. At his first press conference, he announces that he "doesn't believe in positions" and "doesn't believe in drawing up plays." Then over the course of two years, you watch him coach games and when the opposing team makes a run, you see a look in his eye that translates to, "I just don't know what to do." Honestly, you'd be bitter too.

Posted by: Maine at December 24, 2003 11:13 PM

keep the nets in nj. ny already has the knicks, giants, jets, rangers, islanders, yankees, mets, bills. do they need the nets too? they, besides the devils are our only team.

Posted by: leo at February 11, 2004 11:32 PM

Hey guys,
I'm in college, working on a magazine story about the Olympics possibly coming to NYC. Since the whole bruhaha about the Nets stadium started, we wanted to do a little piece on that. I'd love to use some of your comments, especially Corie and Jen. Could you email me if you want to tell me your feelings on the stadium? I can be reached at Thanks.

Posted by: Kester at March 6, 2004 8:27 PM

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